Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
And aside from the Bengals' one playoff appearance, has he really done anything to turn the franchise around?
Yes. The rest of the country might see his 8-8s and see mediocrity, but that's a pretty big difference from the 90s and early 00's. The Bengals went 3-13 four times in the 90's, 4-12 twice, 5-11 once, 6-10 once, and 2-14 once between 1991 and 2002.
Usually being in the playoff race until the last few weeks of the year? A .500 team in general? A division title? That's turned around in my book when you're talking about the worst professional franchise in all of sports.
Marvin does do some stupid things, and I don't want to defend him too much, but I think if you throw him down in another city with an owner who has a clue and he'd probably be in the playoffs most years. He's done about all he can with Mike Brown at the helm, but Brown wore him down into patheticness, just like he does everyone else who comes to Cincinnati.
Maybe Mike Zimmer will be the answer. But I doubt it, because Mike Brown will still own the team.