Originally Posted by SMcGavin
According to minorleaguesplits, Maloney's luck-adjusted FIP in AAA this year was 3.36. What a bum. If you want to believe that Maloney can control his HR/F% even though studies suggest no pitchers really can, go for it. By the way, Maloney's HR/F was over 11%, I don't know where you are getting your numbers.
I use firstinning.com because I have found many games missing through minor league splits in the past, but have never seen incorrect information through firstinning.com (innings and at bats have been missing from players seasons at MLS).
Your "extreme flyball pitcher" line is blatantly wrong... I don't know if you are purposely exaggerating, or misinformed. Actually, I've corrected you on it before, so I'm going to assume you are purposely being misleading. His GB% in 2008 was 41.3%. The past two years it was 42.7% and 45.7%. An average groundball rate is between 43-44%. Those are the facts.
Here is Matt Maloney's GB numbers since 2006 according to FI.
Year Age Team GB%
2006 22 A Lakewood 48%
2007 23 AA Reading 42%
2007 23 AA Chattanooga 37%
2007 23 AAA Louisville 42%
2008 24 AAA Louisville 40%
Now that tells me his fly balls were 100% minus whatever his GB% was, which means it was 52%, 58%, 63%, 58% and 60% fly balls at the different levels since 2006. Thats a whole lot of balls in the air and the general rule is that the higher you go, the more fly balls you allow.
And what separates Lecure and Maloney? Nothing I suppose other than the fact that they are the same age and Maloney has performed way better at every level. I would absolutely love to hear the five starting pitching prospects that the Reds have who are better than Maloney.
Lecure and Maloney have very similar numbers and very similar stuff.
As for Maloney performing 'way better' in AA at age 23 they had FIP's of 3.96 and 4.24. They had a BB% of 9.5% and 8.3%. They had K% of 21.6% and 21.3%. They had a GB% of 45% and 42%. Way better? Hmm, I am going to have to really disagree with that. As for the 5 starters that are better than Maloney, thats pretty simple: Daryl Thompson, Ramon Ramirez, Kyle Lotzkar, Evan Hildenbrandt, Jeremy Horst.