Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*
Isn't Ramirez's biggest issue that he needs to improve his slider? A move to the pen would allow him to add a few MPH to that fastball and dominate with his changeup. I can easily see him being the exact same reliever you are describing as your model for Fisher.
It's just my personal theory that starting pitching prospects go before relief pitchers unless they have the potential to be truly dominant--and Fisher will never be dominant IMO. But I respect your opinion Doug...
I am curious as to why you think a tall, big bodied pitcher with a sinker up to 95 MPH can't be dominant?
As for Ramirez, from the bullpen he can throw a little harder (generally works 91-93 from the bullpen).
Another difference is their body builds. Fisher is tall and big. Ramirez is short and skinny. Over the long haul, I put my money on Fisher having the longer career, thus making his overall value higher.