Originally Posted by icehole3
I dont get all the belly aching and I never will so please spare me all the saber metric stuff, I guess the argument is he doesnt get on base, he cant steal first, OK I get that, I understand that, but after watching 4 or 5 years of trying to slug their ways to wins, why cant people be at least a little patient with the Reds and let them try to win with defense, it won them a title in 1990, matter of fact as I was looking at the old 1990 Reds, I realized Billy Hatcher who's a beloved Reds hero had a .327OBP... "O my gosh!" Could it be you can have a leadoff hitter who has an OBP that low... no way.
Low OBPs that lead their teams to titles, not saying Taveras will do that, can he help lead the Reds to .500 because thats about where the Reds are headed if you wanna be realistic, why not?
2008 Willy Taveras .308
1990 Billy Hatcher .327
1995 Marquis Grissom .317
2001 Tony Womack .307
2002 Darin Erstad .313
Thank you. A bit of optimism. I agree that .308 is very poor, but it's also been his worst season to date.
Are any of those great? No, but considering his other attributes, I'd take it for a 2 year FA signing. If he does flame out, it's only cost us cash. But it's still bought us time for the kids to develop on the farm. And the defensive improvement can only bolster the development of our young pitching.