Originally Posted by SMcGavin
The 2009 pitching is going to be good. Probably not good enough to carry a bad offense, but at least average or better. That's why I don't buy the theory that the Reds never had a shot to compete this year. If the Reds got the offense just up to average, which was a doable task, I think they'd be playing meaningful games in September. But as things are looking right now, the offense will likely end up well short of average.
Agreed. The Reds basically had a league average pitching staff last year (Team ERA+ of 99) despite having Josh Fogg, Gary Majewski, Matt Belisle combine for 150ish innings of pure suckitude. Homer Bailey also struggled mightily and our ace struggled due to an injury. With seemingly the same solid bullpen (plus Roenicke), the health of Harang, and improvement of Cueto, I expect this pitching staff to be above average assuming the defense is improved. If Jocketty can put together a league average offense then I could see the 2009 Reds playing meaningful games late into the season.