Originally Posted by GAC
I'm certainly in agreement there and give him that. He has kept our core young talent, while investing in player development in other markets. But some of those Latin players they signed are at a minimum of 5-7 years away. I look at our farm system overall, and while they may be better talent there then previously, there are still question marks in various areas, and the near-ready talent is slim.
And the guy who acquired a vast majority of that talent is gone.
We've had this discussion last year; but this FO, as far as direction/approach, seems to be turning in circles with really no set sense of where they are trying to take this organization.
If you are still several years away, due to developing youth in the farms, then why spend (waste?) the large amounts of money you have on some of these contracts when that window is closing fast on them (2010) as far as developing that supporting cast?
I really have no idea as to what "model" they are trying to follow. We know it's can't be that of the big market teams. Yet it's really not like similar franchises like the As, Twin, Marlins, and Tampa.
I would submit that the organization to model is the Twins. The A's build to blow up philosophy has put them in a rut over the last 5 years. The Fish while successful will only succeed in a non baseball town such as Miami. Tampa built their team by being awful, more awful than the Reds and collecting high draft picks. If you want to model your team after the Rays it would take 3 years or more of finishing as one of the worst teams in baseball.
The size of the Reds payroll doesn't mean much to me until it prohibits them from making the proper move. I didn't see the Reds being players in the CC, Tex, or Burnett markets nor did I want them to sign them for as expensive or as long term as the teams did. Payroll will become an issue for me if the Reds aren't willing to fork over 5M or 10M in order to put them over the top. Thats when the alarm will sound for me and this current Reds organization.
I think the appearance of spinning their wheels is due to the Reds trying to remain competitive while also building for 2009, 2010, and on. Fire sale wasn't really an option for the Reds because their commodities weren't marketable. IMO an A's type fire sale wouldn't have brought the Reds much in return.