Originally Posted by jojo
I'd only add another grade level:
First, as you argue, they've been awful not because of their top talent stinking but rather, because their bottom talent has been significantly below average over significant amounts of playing time.
Second, they aren't likely to be consistent contenders because while their top talent is good, they really have yet to collect "uber-good" with really Bruce being the only "uber" candidate they currently have.
So really, Jocketty's job is more than simply setting the floor at roughly league average (i.e. burn up the chaff)-though that would be a leap in improvement, but he's also got to add a second story onto the house.
It's a tough job.
I would argue Votto and/or Phillips can be uber along with Bruce. You might argue against Votto because of his position and I could live with that, but Phillips would then have to be considered uber if you get that. I would also argue that we have an uber bat in Owings, although that is only going to impact every five days.
I am also going to make the argument that if Taveras can break 60 walks, you might be able to argue for him as possibly uber.
I cannot tell you how excited I am by the early OBP signs for Phillips and Taveras. If they keep this up, this team can win 90 games, IMO.