Originally Posted by RedsManRick
Well, that gets to the heart of the matter, doesn't it? There's no such thing as a single dimension on which we can rank players -- it has to be a ranking of something. That something could be the guy's ceiling, it could be his "mean project", it could be his trade value.
But so long as we don't ever say what that something is, ceiling will play a very significant role in these sorts of polls thanks to our optimism as fans.
I agree and it's unfortunate because we really don't get a real genuine ranking that way. At least as genuine as we can get with what info we have. Every area should be represented. Ceiling, Floor, Production, Proximity to Majors, Positional value, etc. We touch on all these things to some extent but ceiling is given way too much weight in these polls.
However I do have an idea, it's not the most optimal idea but based on the way we have this structured already it's a nice addition I think. I'll map it out if anyone is interested. But the short version is after every 10 rankings we take those 10 names and rank them in order of 1 pt to 10 pts in all 5 of the categories above. For example
Alonso, Leake and Frazier are our 3 top picks so who has the highest ceiling at this point? I'd say Alonso so he gets 1 pt, I'll go with Leake 2nd so he gets 2 pts, Frazier gets 3. Now who has the highest floor? I'll go Frazier (1), Alonso (2), Leake (3). Now Lowest points is the highest ranking. Alonso has 3 pts, Frazier 4 and Leake 5 so that's your new overall order.
Obviously just an example as we'd have to toss in the other categories but this way everyone gets credit for their strengths and gets dinged for their weaknesses more fairly. We'd just treat it as an additional poll in between prospect 10 and 11. What does everyone think?