Originally Posted by bucksfan2
Find me a team that doesn't have stinkers. Find me a GM who hasn't bought a stinker in his career.
Every team's success hinges on a handful of players. Even more so when you are dealing with a small/middle market club. I would much rather place the success of my club on Votto, Bruce, Cueto, and Bailey instead of Hatteberg, Wilson, Joey Hamilton, etc.
I find it difficult to compare GM's without further knowledge. Its hard to know what edict either are given from the owner in regards to direction and finance. To me Jocketty has been rather inactive in making moves. The much maligned move to sign Taveras shouldn't hamstring a club. $7M over the course of 2 years shouldn't financially strap a club and if it does the owner should sell the team.
In Jocketty's tenure as a Red he let one player walk, Dunn, and traded one prospect of note, Stewart. Dunn wasn't coming back and Stewart has been discussed ad nauseum. At the same time Krivsky traded away the teams starting SS and RF in one trade in order to fix the bullpen. The price paid was very high at the time, in retrospect it probably was a net loss for both clubs.
I may be in the minority here, but anytime you can bring in talent into the front office that is a good thing. Bavasi may have been a failure as a GM but he didn't work his way through the system by being an idiot. The same could be said about both Krivsky and Obie. Both were fired as a GM but would be a nice addition to any team's scouting department.
Of course all teams revolve around a few guys. But we've been hearing for years Bruce, Votto, Cueto and Bailey are the future. Krivsky added to that core by stealing Hamilton and flipping him for Volquez. So far Walt has muddied the water by drafting Alonso where a core piece already was in place and dealing off his other good draft pick for an old guy. The losing was supposed to stop when the change was made, but Walt seems to have the same "wait for the core talent to gel" plan that WK did. At least WK was adding younger pieces like Phillips and the aforementioned Volquez to supplement the core. WK hasn't really done anything (though adding Masset for Griffey was a pretty darn good move). Maybe Mike Leake will be his stamp on this team.
As for Bavasi, he's from a storied baseball family and the heavy lifting for the family name was done by others. Not sure the working his way-up reference applies to him any more than it does to Mike Brown or David Shula. If he's here to lend a hand it may be OK, but I fear that when WJ makes his retirement official (as opposed to the unofficial retirement that we've seen from his GM tenure) that Bavasi will be the man.