Originally Posted by westofyou
personally I don't think any 19th century guys should be on the list, especially 1880's guys, the rules were too squishy for pitchers then and the fact is most 20th century guys destroy there 19th century counterparts.
If we track Runs saved against the average the Reds list from the 20th century on looks like this:
GAMES STARTED >= 130
NEUTRAL WINS displayed only--not a sorting criteria
WINNING PERCENTAGE displayed only--not a sorting criteria
RSAA RSAA GS N_W PCT
1 Dolf Luque 182 319 178 .502
2 Jose Rijo 177 215 101 .614
3 Eppa Rixey 174 356 187 .547
4 Bucky Walters 160 296 159 .599
5 Noodles Hahn 147 191 117 .553
6 Bob Ewing 116 228 125 .512
7 Jim Maloney 115 258 124 .623
8 Gary Nolan 109 242 102 .621
9 Paul Derringer 102 322 170 .518
10 Ewell Blackwell 84 163 90 .506
I had to look up Luque, how have I never heard of this guy (probably because he was before my Dad's time)?
In '23 he went 27-8 with an era+ of 201!
In '25 he went 16-18 with an era+ of 156. Looks like he could hit a bit too.
Rijo is one of my favorite Reds of all time, which is saying a lot, because I generally just ignore the pitchers all-together. In my lifetime Soto and Rijo are the only starters I have really taking a shine to. I am an everyday player kinda guy.
Rijo seemed to me, a good natured guy with a competitive fire between the lines. Confident but not cocky. Understand his place in the game, how fortunate he was, and was comfortable with it and comfortable in his own skin. Not afraid to shoulder the team. Not afraid to relate with the fans. A guy you are happy to give the ball to when you need to win the big one. I suspect he was well respected in the clubhouse and free with his time for the younger guys.