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Originally Posted by Redhook

This Marvin thing is a touchy subject. First, I'll never forget how he took this franchise from the depths of hell to the playoffs. He did a great job his first 3 years.

After '05 I would grade him at a C-. Some good years, some bad. Since '05, I believe his negatives have slightly outweighed his positives. I thought he failed with the Chad situation, his clock management blows, not challenging Brat in his play-calling, failing to adjust quickly enough during games, etc. I believe those are big issues and could've all been improved upon.

At this point in time the question is this, "Is Marvin the guy that can get the Bengals to the next level, i.e. Super Bowl Champs?" IMO, I don't think he is. I'm not saying I want him fired right now or that he's a bad coach, I just think he lacks something to get this team to the elite level. Obviously, having to deal with Mike Brown's shenanigans certainly doesn't help his cause, but I put some of the blame on Marvin.

I think a good comparison would be Tony Dungy in Tampa Bay. Good coach who laid the groundwork for a pretty impressive team, but just didnt have what it took to win the big game.