Originally Posted by flyer85
the difference is simply this (this is in no way an endorsement of Stubbs), Patterson and Taveras had already established who they were by the time they got to Cincinnati. Everyone knew what was coming, with Stubbs there is some hope, even if it is small.
One could argue that Stubbs had shown who he was before he arrived as well. 25 years old and a career .765 OPS in the minor leagues isn't exactly something to get all jazzed up about. Just saying.
If you look at Reds OF prospects who have come through the system in the last fifteen years and had significant big league careers, the average drop-off from career minor league OPS to career major league OPS is about 100 points. Should Drew Stubbs be a major league starter if he can't get his OPS above .665?
Agreed there is still SOME hope. But you could argue that there was SOME hope (at the time) with Patterson as well.