Originally Posted by mth123
Drew Stubbs is like the Thanksgiving meal that was removed from the oven before it was finished cooking. If it was left to cook a while longer it may have been something memorable, but by taking it out too soon its making everyone sick. Same can be said of Homer Bailey and to a lesser extent Jay Bruce. Many are calling for the team to make the same mistake with Aroldis Chapman. I think when Stubbs is in his late 20's he'll be a pretty good major league CF, but if he did find some power stroke about when he hit the majors last year, he really could have used a season in AAA to develop consistency with it and to avoid the pitfals of falling into a long swing.
Guy had a .713 OPS at AAA for a reason. Another year was called for so I'm not surprised, but it didn't play out that way. On the heels of his big league debut he had a good spring, he knocked down the door and I think he should get another month at this point.
That’s a good way to put it.
Wasn’t Stubbs kind of moved around and up in the minors in odd manner too? I have it in my head that he was not given the time at any level that he might have needed. Am I wrong about that?
I think that I learned my lesson from the time of wanting Bailey and Bruce pushed up here. I am very willing to wait on Chapman to make sure that he gets the right amount of seasoning and experience for him before exposing him to the dog eat dog world of major league baseball.
I would give Stubbs the entire year in center field for this Reds team. With a reasonable amount of days off here and there. I would not quit on him, and I would tell him so, even if he does struggle. But, he would not be leading off, because the Reds are OBP challenged, and even more so against right handed pitching, or at least they were coming into the season. The Reds could live with an outstanding centerfielder supporting the pitching staff on defense, while he gets better with the bat down in the order. It has been done before with teams. Of course I think that they could live with a Cabrera/Janish platoon too, which seems to go against the grain of the consensus choice.
Doesn’t Stubbs have more to think about when leading off? Maybe too much to think about. Vs down in the order where making good contact on better pitch recognition might be his priority?
If it wasn’t for speed, or the tradition of leading CF off, wouldn’t Stubbs normally be batting down in the order in his first full year of PA/AB unless he was an exceptional phenom type?
2008 23 3 Teams 3 Lgs A+-AA-AAA
548 PA .788
2008 23 Sarasota FLOR A+
358 PA .772
2008 23 Chattanooga SOUL AA
106 PA .802
2008 23 Louisville IL AAA
84 PA .834
2009 24 Louisville IL AAA
472 PA .713