Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_
I agree. But I'm sure the Reds would listen if a total package SS was available, not that one likely will be.
I know it wouldn't prevent us from getting a pen arm...but we'd have less chips to deal with after a Lee trade. And as for World Series contenders...I think we ARE one already. And trading away a promising young LEFT HANDED prospect like Wood only hurts our chances in furture years. I don't want a "one year and done" playoff run. Even if it gets us a world series ring. I want sustained success. That means not trading away lots of promising young prospects for a 2 month rental. If we had an abundance of left handed starting pitching prospects...sure (which is why I'm not that hesitant to deal Yonder...he's blocked and we have other candidates in the minors to step into his shoes too).
I think we should be able to get MORE than 2 months of lee for Wood & Yonder. But let's say we DO make that deal...what's the rotation for the last 2 months? Who gets sent down to the minors? Who gets sent to the pen? Who gets kicked OUT of the pen to make room for an ex-starter being added to the pen? How much of an improvement is Lee over say Volquez starting? 2 wins? 4 wins? 8 wins? Are 8 wins worth trading away Yonder and Wood? That's my line of thinking. Getting Lee doesn't assure us of a playoff spot or a WS berth and certainly not a title. I'm sure it'll improve our odds, but I think a solid pen arm would improve them MORE than Lee would.
The pen is starting to gel and settle down (knock on wood). If you have a chance to add one of the top 5 arms in the game, you do it. Alonso is going nowhere in this rotation, and while Wood is a solid pitcher, he's by no means a "can't miss" prospect IMO. I would trade both of them in a heartbeat for Cliff Lee.
As it stands now, if the Reds make the playoffs, who opens the postseason for them? Arroyo? Cueto? If you throw Lee into the mix, you're talking Lee going first, followed by Cueto, Arroyo, and whoever else we throw out there. That is DEPTH if I've ever seen it. If we add Lee, Leake would eventually get shut down IMO (the right call). I don't worry about making space for Cliff Lee. That's the easiest part of this whole thing. Trading for Lee would boost the reputation of this club times 100, even if it does result in Lee leaving at the end of the year.
If we don't make the trade, I won't be disappointed, for all of the reasons you've already mentioned. Nothing wrong with keeping so many good prospects if the M's ask for too much. However, if we can make this happen, he needs to do it.