Originally Posted by WVRed
Calhoun: two titles to his credit. Also produced some pretty good quality NBA players.
Bill Self: One title (against Cal) and also an impressive recruiter. He is the complete package. In the national title against Cal, he clearly outcoached him. Self is also younger I believe.
Until Cal wins a title, he isn't going to be in the elite status. He is just like Pitino as a coach. He can recruit and can sell ice to eskimos, but when the game is on the line, sometimes he makes the wrong decisions.
So you would rather have Self or Calhoun (at his age and with his health?!) over Cal? Saying Calhoun especially is just nuts.
Self outcoached Cal? I wonder how that end-game would turn out if you replayed it 100 times. I guess Self coached his boys to not miss a single shot in the final 2:12 of the game? Amazing coaching. haha.
During that stretch Kansas made 100% of their shots going 2 for 2 from two point range, 2 for 2 from three point range and 2 for 2 from the free throw line.
Why doesn't Self coach his boys to do that every game???
Sorry, I think you're off on those two guys. Self is a very good coach, but he's not on Cal's level when it comes to recruiting and saying that he out-coached Cal in the NC game is just wrong, IMO. That Memphis team's inability to hit a free throw finally came back and bit them in the ass. That's why they lost, that, and because Kansas didn't miss a single shot for the final 2:12 of the game.
That's where the list ends for me.
I can see the Roy Williams argument and don't have an issue if someone wants to include him on their list above Cal... however, what was Roy's reputation before he got to UNC where he could have 12 All-Americans on every team?