Originally Posted by dougdirt
I guess I would ask, where you see that coming from? His minor league time showed that he is very likely to strike out at a very high rate. I am a scouting guy as well, but when it comes to strikeouts, guys typically don't make large strides in the rate in which they strike out. Right now, if Stanton cut off 5%, a substantial cut, he is still considered poor in terms of making contact with pitches he swings at.
My question would be to you, if Upton understands the strikezone better than Stanton does, what makes you believe that Stanton is going to improve upon his approach and lead to better numbers than Upton has been able to do thus far? In the minors, Upton had far superior K and BB rates than Stanton did. He did so in the majors at the same age as well and in the majors we even know how often he was chasing 'bad' pitches and Stanton is doing it at a substantially higher rate too.
Doug, I both agree and disagree with you on Stanton.
I had the fortune of watching him 3 games this year in Atlanta, one earlier in the season after being called-up and two recently.
While I have a limited number of games to go by, the difference between early in the year and late in the season was night and day. He was overmatched early with a big, looping swing. He was very susceptible to the off-speed pitch and getting abused by it. He had 31 Ks in his first 80 PAs, as you mentioned.
But over the course of the season, he really improved his discipline. His drop in strikeouts was not precipitous by any means, rather gradual, but it got slightly better almost every month. There was a report saying he was setting the pitching machine to throw him over 200 sliders from 50 feet every day to work on his susceptibility to the breaking stuff.
I think Stanton is going to be an absolute holy terror. You have absolutely every right to question his discipline, but mark my words, this kid is going to cut it.