Originally Posted by dabvu2498
Brutus - I think you have a fair point, but I would also add that darn near everyone who has ever worked in an industrial, agricultural, or construction setting has put themselves in a situation which violated OSHA standards, individual company rules, common sense, and all of the above, due to pressure from employers or just to "get the job done."
Unfortunately, it's the way some people are wired.
Below is video of the 1999 crane disaster at Miller Park in Milwaukee. What doesn't often get told in the Miller Park story is that a crew of operators and laborers had refused to begin work that day due to the windy conditions. One of the "bosses" dismissed them from the job and found a crew that would do the job in those conditions, even though they violated the crane manufacturers specifications for operating. (Remember that this project was already way behind schedule and over budget at this point.) And 3 construction workers lost their lives because of it.
If that crane hadn't failed, nothing would have ever been known about the situation. It happens everyday in dangerous work settings, very sadly.
YouTube - Crane Accident Kills 3 at Miller Park
Well, I say kudos to the ones that wouldn't do something they knew was unsafe, even if it meant risking their jobs. That's kind of my point: it's terribly unfortunate (even negligent) that the employers terminated their employment because they wouldn't break the rules. Heck, that's the point where I do completely blame an employer if they're willing to force people to do something unsafe. But you know what? Those people that lost their jobs... because they listened to their common sense, they saved their own lives. I wish the new people had done the same.
I see what you're saying... and I don't at all disagree. We've all done it one time or another. We've sacrificed common sense in the name of production. I know it happens a lot. But if we do it, we still can't ultimately be shocked if something goes wrong.
I guess the point I'm making is that in this case, Sullivan could have at least raised the issue. Perhaps he did, though it doesn't seem that way. If he brings it to the attention of Kelly prior to going up there, one of a few things happen: he gets fired, he gets told to go up there anyhow or maybe they realize the danger and tell him he doesn't have to go up there.
If he does that, and he gets fired, he loses his job, but spares his life. If it were a paying job, it would, IMHO, open up a wrongful termination. If he is forced to go up anyhow, I would hope he chooses safety over the job, but if he doesn't, I say shame on Kelly for putting him in that spot. But more likely, perhaps ND errs on the side of caution and he doesn't have to go up there. Then we're not talking about this.