Originally Posted by bucksfan2
Ninth may be a little strong here. But no longer would I pick him as the #1 or #2 QB in the league. #1 for me has always been Brady. Brady has been a winner since he stepped onto the field. IMO that always set him apart from Manning. #2 for me now is Rivers. Rivers has been without his top two WR's this entire season and keeps putting up numbers. And you don't hear people using it as a crutch for him. With all the injuries Manning has had he still has his top WR available for ever game.
As for QB's right now I think you have to put Brady, Rivers, and Brees ahead of Manning. Vick is a wild card because when he is on he is the hardest in the game to stop. Big Ben won't put up numbers but he finds a way to win. And then you have Matt Ryan who looks to be the up and coming QB star.
So right now my list would go
Absolutely fair take Bucksfans.
Let me introduce another variable into this, and I intend this as a compliment for Manning. If you give Manning solid offensive line protection and a set of decent recievers that he has worked with for a few years...I'd say no one can sit back and pick apart a defense like him.
However, most teams out there have a chink or two in their armor, of which a QB has to instinctively make a play. I don't think that is one of Peyton's strong suits. Or maybe I should say, most of the guys I rank above him are better at that than Manning.