Originally Posted by mth123
This is where we disagree. His value is based on how much he can contribute to his team winning. That doesn't make a poor player with a wide open position ahead of him a good prospect, but a guy like Alonso just doesn't have value to his team if he can't help them win on the field or be converted into some one else who could help. Isn't a player's value based on his ability to get on the field and perform? Alonso's lack of versatility is a huge obstacle to that and his bat hasn't shown enough yet to push the current player off the position. The fact that the guy is Joey Votto makes it tougher, but has Alonso done enough yet to suggest he could push Lyle Overbay or Adam Laroche off of 1B in another organization? I think Alonso can hit some. Pretty much every 1B can and a lot of minor leaguers who will be 1B can as well. I haven't seen the whole list yet, but I'd guess there are 6 or 7 1B ranked ahead of Alonso on the list (Belt, Freeman, Montero, Hosmer, Singleton, maybe Rizzo or Carter?). Add the established major leaguers to the mix and I have to wonder if Alonso is one of the 30 best 1B overall in the next few years. Thankfully, the DH Position expands the number of jobs available, but Alonso doesn't seem to be anythng speclal. Add some versatility to get him in the line-up more or have a monster year to nudge past the others and he'd move up. Its not like ranking him 73rd overall is an insult. But right now he's a blocked prospect. The fact that its Votto doing the blocking magnifies it, but he'd be blocked in most places.
Sorry, but this is just wrong. A players value is and should be based on what he could do if given the opportunity to play. Either he is capable of producing X/Y/Z or he isn't. Being stuck behind someone else doesn't change that.
As for Alonso himself, take out the year from the time he broke his hamate and the guy has absolutely obliterated the baseball to the tune of .327/.404/.549 since being drafted. If he didn't get hurt, he would be a top 20 prospect right now. He did get hurt though and like everyone who has a hamate injury, they suffer through the struggles to hit for about a year afterwards. He is going to be a very good hitter in the major leagues when he gets the chance.