Originally Posted by pedro
Kingspoint, I think being that you live in Portland you would understand that discussions about public transportation issues are quite often political in nature.
And we're both old enough to understand that.
I'll leave it at that.
If one sticks to the topic and doesn't "derail" the issue, then it won't ever enter into any political realm. If you don't have the abilities to discuss the pros and cons of a topic without bringing up left/right/liberal/conservative/republican/democrat/etc., then just stay out of the topic until you learn to do so.
Politics does not cover as wide of an area as some people are trying to force it to become. If I'm politicking that Travis Wood should be starting on Opening Day, is that now off subject because I've stated an opinion on something? Of course not. Opinions aren't politics. Political discussions are when you bring up definite political parties and their ideaologies, and most people can't even agree on what those are. To some, baseball is a religion. Do we ban baseball because a few people think that it's a religion? Nor should we ban a certain topic because a few misguided people want to throw everything under the bus into the category of "politics". It's not a broad topic, unless you try to forcibly make it out to be. Every subject on Earth has a backer in Washington, D.C. supporting it or denouncing it. It doesn't make it a political topic, though. Some common sense needs to be used here. Stick to the information being exchanged and don't turn a thread into the views of left/right/liberal/conservative/republican/democrat and the rest should take care of itself. It's obvious when something is going that direction.
(FYI...and this is for everyone...."sources" aren't political in and of themselves, only the information can be. Otherwise, this is a political site, because it's owners have political leanings one way or the other, and every possible link to anything has political leanings by it's owner one way or another. Deal only with the information, and quit worrying about the source. Use your noggin' to disseminate the information for yourself. That's why we walk on two legs instead of four.)
The weakest argument in the world has always been one where someone doesn't have the ability to debate a topic, so they spew out the "politics" card and try to attack a source rather than debate the information. That in itself is the nature of good old politics. Picture some fat politician, someone like Boss Tweed, and rather than debate the pros and cons of whether it's good for New York to be allowing all of the Irish immigrants into the country, that he insteads starts name-calling the Irishmen, calling them lazy, shiftless, criminal, etc.; or, when a politician is accused of something, he attacks the accuser instead of rebutting the information. That is politics. There was more politics being done by the users here than there was being issued through any links or posts of information.