Originally Posted by dougdirt
I was just having a discussion with someone about what is important to catcher defense and that was brought up by the other party. My question to him was "does the umpire ever even look at the catchers glove after the ball has crossed home plate"?
The strikezone isn't defined by where the catcher catches the ball, because the catchers glove is well behind home plate. The strikezone is defined by where the ball is when it crosses the plate.
So, I bring it here to you guys.... how much, if any importance do you actually put on a catchers ability to "frame a pitch"?
I umpired from about the time I was 16 until 25 or 26. Granted, I only did Babe Ruth, High School, Legion and smaller college ball, but for me, framing pitches didn't help catchers if I knew they were doing it. I always gave myself a split second to think about each pitch as it hit the mitt, so if they were good at it, it may have made a slight impact on my judgement of where the ball crossed. But if I saw their mitts being drastically moved back, it helped me determine it was usually out of the zone.
That's just my own personal viewpoint, obviously, but I think most umpires don't allow framing to make up their mind much if I had to guess.