Re: Reds chance of keeping Votto just took a hit..
Semi understand where you are coming from but it's not like we were on the cusp of making it to the playoffs and just missed. We were 11 GB of the wild card and 17 games back of the division and only 7 losses away from your 90 loss criteria of rebuilding. If we were say 2/4 GB I would have a different outlook. But the problems we had going into last year are the same going into this year. The only difference is we added to the amount with not picking up Cordero's option (which I believe was a great idea). CL, RP, SP, SS, LF, 3B all need to be figure out. Don't say that SS and 3B are figured out because we are fixing them with rookies and thats not a fix its a guess.
As for getting value, part of the the value for us would be payroll flexibility. We have maybe $8m to use for 3-4 possible solutions. You have a solution for 1B, so use it. Lets say we do trade Votto to Toronto for Escobar, Morrow, Drabek or McGuire (which I think is a fair value, not equal but fair because you could possibly throw in another arm). You have cured your SS (and leadoff) and rotation issue. Now you can still use your prospects and not worry about the future because you can now use Heisey, Wood, Volquez, Sappelt, Bailey, Frazier to attain an additional arm and replacements possibly send Sappelt, Cozart, Volquez and Frazier to ATL for Jurrjens and Prado. Now you have cheaper veterans at LF, 2 SP, SS (leadoff) still with some $$ to spend on RP.
Line up looking like:
C: Hanigan, Mesoraco
SS: Escobar, Janish
3B: Rolen, Francisco
LF: Prado, Heisey
SP: Cueto, Jurrjens, Morrow, Leake, Arroyo, Wood, Drabek (McGuire)
RP: Ondrusek, Lecure, Arredondo, Bray, Boxberger, ??
Better rotation and better talent overall in the field I believe. The Reds are going to score run, that's a fact. You need pitching to stop runs from being scored. Not to mention, small market teams are always "rebuilding" because its the only way for them to survive.
*And yes I may be imaginative with these trades but going off of other websites and the teams wants these don't seem far off from being done.*