Originally Posted by Bumstead
11 pages of debate that Janish is as good as Valdez...haha...Janish is one of the worst MLB players in the history of the game. Valdez can play all the infield positions with above average defense (Janish is pretty much just a SS) and is clearly, clearly, clearly a better hitter no matter how old he is. I would venture that Valdez will be a better hitter than Janish when he is 50. As to giving up something of value, it was Jeremy Horst...If Janish starts in AAA over some younger guy that should be playing I would be shocked. Amazing how tied into home-grown "talent" some of us Reds fans become. Janish is horrible, we should be happy we won't have to watch him be horrible...
The grass is always greener on the other side, I guess.
PA AVG OBP SLG Fld WAR
2010 363 .258 .306 .360 1.9 1.1
2011 300 .249 .294 .341 -5.0 0.0
663 .254 .300 .351 -3.1 1.1
2010 228 .260 .338 .385 1.2 1.1
2011 366 .214 .259 .262 4.2 -0.4
594 .231 .289 .308 5.4 0.7
Over their last season's worth of playing time, they're basically the same guy production wise - Wilson has a slight edge that you certainly couldn't detect with your eyes. Valdez has been a better hitter. Janish has been a better fielder. It more or less comes out a wash.
The idea that either guys is clearly
better (that is, much more likely to outproduce the other given the same opportunity) is just silly and seems to be to be based in a visceral reaction from having the privilege of watching Janish suck -- and not having been able to watch Valdez.
I get that people really don't want Janish on the team. I'd love to have a better backup too. But the reality is that they are very similar players -- guys are quality defensive IFs who have played primarily at SS and some at 3B and 2B and who are poor hitters. Try to project them for 2012 and the bars of uncertainty around either players' performance significantly overlaps with the other guy.
It's completely possible that the Reds don't miss Horst at all. But let's not delude ourselves that one crappy hitting, good fielding 25th man is better than the other. It assumes way too much about our ability to differentiate between part-time players in small samples. Janish is not a good player and arguing that Valdez isn't much better is not to defend Janish so much as it is an effort to assess Valdez realistically.