Originally Posted by VottoFan54
There is a reason why Auburn has to fill more spots than every other school in the SEC, mostly disciplinary issues. The first article you posted by Josh Moon seemed to indicate that Auburn far exceeds Alabama in class, but they can't seem to retain players. Alabama retains 12% more players than Auburn yet Alabama is the one that makes up injuries to third string players?
As for the Darius Philon story, there are sources that say he was informed about the possibility of a grayshirt as early as December. You are only going to get one side of the story on this, Saban has never been a guy to argue with the media and I doubt he is going to start now. What is Saban supposed to do right now if Philon is lying about the timing of the grayshirt? He would probably be better off just letting it go than calling Philon out on it.
The fact that Saban even suggested grey shirting is the end of the story...no other side is needed. Clearly Saban is violating the spirit of the rules and he isn't erroring on the side of the kids. Saban's defense is that he told Philon that he might need to "greyshirt"? Philon isnt exactly a sophisticated kid by the way. Saban also told him to not go on any other official visits after Philon committed to Bama.
The first article compares the Saban era with the Chizik era. Also, the NCAA just investigated Auburn for 13 months and completly exonerated their program. That's not to say Bama is dirty, but we know Chizik is not. Also what do you think the odds are that Saban would suspend his best player and essentially dismiss him from the team for a violation of team rules? There are alot of reasons for Auburn fans to be proud of how Chizik and company conduct their business..it looks like Auburn is doing it the right way.
The retention data you're quoting spans a decade. Clearly Tuberville had some issues especially leading up to his demise. This year Auburn had to give significant playing time to 20+ freshman because tuberville's last few recruiting classes were essentially missing. But if you want historical context too, in the last 18 years, Bama has only been OFF of probation roughly a year and a couple of months. Since the 90's, Bama has had to forfeit or vacate 29 wins. That's 29 compared to 0 for Auburn.