Originally Posted by mattfeet
I agree. People saying we're "all in" this year must forget we have Latos for 4 years, Marshall for 4 years, Votto for 1 more, Bruce for 4 or 5 more, Cueto for 3-4 more. Our core is in tact for a LONG time. Figure 1 of Votto or Phillips will get an extension, and that's still a very competitive team.
I disagree that the Reds have a winning core of players signed long term. If Votto and/or Phillips leave, and with the ultimate departures of Rolen and Arroyo, they will have some money freed up for new talent. But the future, as with virtually any small market team, is unsettled and unclear. There are a few good long-term contracts in place, but few.
When was the last time the Reds had a sustained period of excellence? The 1970s.
They did win in 1990 because they caught fire in a particular year. That is the much more likely scenario to repeat. A single, great year or maybe two.
People looking to build long-term competitive teams in a small market are looking for a needle in a haystack. For a team like the Reds, they have to seize on the windows of opportunity. Go for it when it's possible.
With the departure of Pujols and Fielder from the division, with Votto and Phillips still around, the year 2012 would seem like a good time.
I'm glad the Reds are looking at Gonzalez and trying to bolster the pitching for 2012. I would keep Chapman on the staff for 2012. I'm happy about the off-season moves.
I hope Bailey is back to missing bats in his next outing. I'm focused on 2012. With the Madson injury, the Reds need some pitching help to win in 2012.