Originally Posted by mace
The guy he somehow calls to mind--the high-end, most wildly optimistic model, admittedly--is Bill Madlock. They're similar in size, age placement in the minors, speed, hitting performance and position (both second and third base). Maybe even in disposition, although I'm not fully informed on Madlock in that regard.
Actually Mad Dog isn't a bad comp, imo. Madlock was a bit bigger if I remember correctly but not much and had 10-15 homer power, mostly line pull power, but he hit to all fields and was mostly a gap line drive hitter, rarely struck out, he could make contact no matter who pitched. Fastball, curve, knuckleball didn't matter Bill could make contact. Excellent bad ball hitter, too. He didn't like to walk and though he'd take a walk he didn't walk all that often because he'd hit a pitch outside but close - and get hits doing it. Fiery temper and competitor like Rose. If HRod became 1/2 the hitter Madlock was I'd be very, very happy.
HRod needs to strike out a bit less and walk a bit more but his power numbers and everything else are very close. Of course you're talking minor league numbers to major league numbers. The K and BB numbers are not that far off either. I'm not talking a huge improvement. But shifting production to the majors IS a huge thing. But yes, his minors numbers and Madlocks major league numbers are very similar...
Now I'm not saying HRod is going to become Madlock - I see it as a wildly optimistic ceiling while his floor is like a skyscraper below that