Originally Posted by Boston Red
I'm certain that's not true. Do you know how difficult it is to get into Notre Dame? They may have some very low bar that is their absolute minimum standard that they would even consider that about 0.1% of ordinary applicants would be admitted if they applied with. And their football team may, in fact, by and large exceed that hurdle. But you're never going to convince me that Notre Dame has a bunch of football players with 3.9 high school GPAs and 1300s on their SATs (or whatever the equivalent of that is now that they've changed the scale). That's basically what it takes for the average student to get in.
Here are ND's freshman class stats (http://admissions.nd.edu/admission-a...ns-statistics/
). 89% were in the top 10% of their high school classes. 52% were in the top 2% of their high school classes. Do you really think half of ND's football team was in the top 2% of their high school classes? That almost all of them were in the top 10% of their high school classes?
No, I think they are part of the 11% that aren't in the top 10% of their classes, the 48% that were not in the top 2% of their classes, etc.
That is, after all, part of the general body yes? I didn't say they were above average within the body, just that most fell within the normal admissions range.
The 25 percentile of ACT scores two years ago for Notre Dame was 31. Do I think most athletes being accepted have a 31? No. But that does mean 25 of every 100 students admitted into Notre Dame have a score less than 31. I would surmise most athletes are in this range.
I never said they were accepting only students that were in the upper echelon, just meant that they were mostly accepting athletes that were at the lowest end of their standards.
Last I saw, the average SAT reading/math composite was around 1100 for Notre Dame football players. The 25 percentile score was around 1200. My point here is that while most athletes are well below the general population average, most are within the lowest range of admissions. Notre Dame is far, far more consistent with admissions criteria than most. That I am absolutely sure of.