Originally Posted by Brutus
I'm not changing goal posts. I'm changing analogies. I have remained completely constant in my point: pointing out an isolated example is not a trend. You have absolutely no evidence of the criteria changing one bit. You pointed out a single player in 2010 winning a separate award. Not only is that an outlier, but it's an outlier for a completely different award. Yet it's me changing the goal posts? Stick to the same award. You're grasping at straws using one example from 2010 for a completely different award. I am beginning to wonder if you're even familiar with the term outlier.
Did you happen to catch Dave Cameron's chat yesterday? He said the same thing... Braun might not even finish in the top 10 of the award. Not only do voters not like giving the award to players on bad teams but Braun's situation gives them extra incentive not to vote for him.
So probability isn't my thing and I don't know what "outlier" means. Interesting. On that note, I'm beginning to wonder if you're familiar with what the term "supercilious" means.
I asked you a simple question the other day, one in which you didn't answer. Are the voters for the MVP the same as the Cy Young? If you don't see the importance in me asking that original question, the conversation isn't worth having.
This particular occurrence with Felix was very recent. Concluding the guard hasn't changed based on 1 additional year of awards isn't as conclusive as you're claiming it to be. It will take additional time for things to play out conclusively. Sabermetrics weren't as popular even 5 years ago as they are now.
I didn't catch Cameron's chat, and he may be right. However, if Braun doesn't win, we'll never know for certain if it was because he played for a bad team or the cloud above him from his failed test.