Originally Posted by reds44
Somebody in the top 10 in the league in OPS and 2nd in HRs/RBIs isn't exceptional? Tough crowd. He's been exceptional this year. No matter how "streaky" people say he is.
From what I see, Bruce is 14th in OPS. Number 13 is Aaron Hill. Number 15 is David Freese.
Giving extra credit for HRs doesn't really make sense. If you're looking at OPS, you'are already counting HRs. No need to do so again.
If we want to go old school and add RBI to the conversation, his 91 leaves him behind Ryan Braun, Chase Headley and Matt Holliday -- and just ahead of Aramis Ramirez, Alfonso Soriano and Adam LaRoche.
This doesn't touch defense. Bruce may be a talented defender, but the stats we do have suggest he hasn't had a great year. And even if he's been a good defensive RF, he's still just a RF compared to guys who are putting up comparable offensive production from CF, C, 3B, 2B.
Jay Bruce is having a solid year. But he's not having an exceptional one, largely because his low average is keeping his OBP in the mediocre range and he plays an "easy" defensive position. If we use criteria that takes us beyond the traditionally sexy HR/RBI and maybe some narrative about carrying the team in Votto's absense (but go make that case to Ludwick, Frazier, Cueto, Latos and Chapman), the list of guys who should be in the MVP conversation is 20+ guys long and Bruce is toward the back of that list.
I'm not complaining about that, but we shouldn't confuse solid/above average with exceptional.