Originally Posted by Bumstead
BS! Saying Cabrera agreed to play 3B so the Tigers could add another bat has nothing to do with Trout. Your basic point was that Cabrera moved to 3rd so Young could suck at DH; your point is moot since that was certainly not the case as Fielder does not suck.
Willingly moving to another position goes a long way in the locker room and you know it. Tossing it off as nothing is just playing to your argument regardless of facts.[/quote]
I'm sure it means a lot to people in the clubhouse. Good for him. Maybe they'll be more likely to go out to dinner with the guy or let him choose what songs to play in the locker room. But those good feelings don't play defense or run the bases.
But we're also talking about the reality of how the season has played out. And the reality is that the Tigers DH for most of the season has been Delmon Young. So while the move to 3B for Cabrera could have resulted in having all 3 guys in the lineup, the reality is that it didn't. How much credit should we give a guy for making a move that materially resulted in harm to his team's defense because it could have let the team have a better DH -- even though it actually didn't work out that way? That strikes me as quite the stretch. Give Cabrera good teammate of the year if you want, but his move has not helped the Tigers win baseball games this year.
Cabrera is certainly not costing his team anything. He's as good as anyone in the game right now and his presence on any team would make that team better by leaps and bounds regardless of his defensive liabilities.
Yes. His BAT is as good as anybody's in the game right now. Nobody is denying that. Nobody is arguing that Cabrera wouldn't make any team significantly better. Those are strawmen argument. Calling a guy the second most valuable player in the league is not an insult nor a dismissal of his talent and production. It's just arguing that somebody else has been better.
You can't just dismiss defense and baserunning out of hand like they are completely irrelevant. Cabrera is a great player and is having an awesome season; one of the best in baseball this year. And it was awfully nice of him to offer to do his job playing a position he already knows how to play -- that doesn't mean he gets credit for Prince Fielder being a great hitter. None of that changes the reality that Mike Trout's on the field performance has provided more value to his team this year than Cabrera.