Re: AL mvp....
Originally Posted by bucksfan2
I hate these type of stats. They are more scoreboard stumperish than anything else. Why not hitting .325? or 31 HR's? or 48 SB's?
I wonder how many player in history have gone .330/.393/.606 OPS .999 with 4 SB's after switching from 1b to 3b in the off season?
Originally Posted by Bumstead
.277 27HR's 80SB
.293 37HR's 50SB
Red's fans have seen it in consecutive seasons...really, there isn't much difference. You are quoting AVG? I thought AVG didn't mean anything to metric guys? We can combine stats from 100's of players into combinations that have never been duplicated. It doesn't mean we haven't seen it before...it means we haven't seen it exactly but we have seen it in the same range 100's of times.
Thank you both for reinforcing my point. A small selection of stats that don't capture many aspects of value is arbitrary. You have to look at the bigger picture. You have to weight certain aspects of excellence. When you just look at a few stats, particularly a set of stats that omits huge chunks of a player's job, you can come up with just about any answer you want. Cabrera shouldn't be given extra credit because his combination a few excellent stats has a name given to it while Trout's doesn't.
If the Triple Crown wasn't called anything, how would you defend the selection of choosing those three stats in particular? You'd essentially be picking the only 3 stats out of all the stats out there where Cabrera was better than Trout. It would be obvious cherry picking. But because that combo has a name, it feels more important.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
Last edited by RedsManRick; 10-04-2012 at 04:17 PM.