Originally Posted by mth123
The ability for the defense to put the runner in a no win situation is obvious. I don't think anyone on this board really needs that explained to them.
And while the primary reason for this thread was because the discussion was cluttering the scoreboard thread and made it unreadable, the question posed is not about misapplication of the rule or really about last night's game at all (where the losing team deserved to lose for making errors and not hitting with runners in scoring position and certainly should not have been bailed out by hitting a pop fly with men on base).
My question is why the defense shouldn't get a DP on a pop-up. What makes getting a double play on a ground ball such a great job by the pitcher but on a pop-up the runners are protected? Seems to me that in most situations getting a pop fly is an even better outcome than getting a ground ball (which have a better chance of going through) so why limit the reward for the defense doing its job and limit the penalty for the offense failing? The whole concept seems misguided to me.
Your ideas on this are too revolutionary for me. It's just expected that runners can run on a grounder but not on a pop up. It's just the nature of the game, which could be changed, but I'm happy with the current concept.
But I've noticed over the years that INFIELD fly has become a misnomer. Umpires call infield fly on pop ups into the shorter part of the outfield.
Last night's fly ball was something that Holliday could have fielded. It wasn't an INFIELD fly at all, using the normal definition of the word.
What you MAY see is a new interpretation of the infield fly rule, limiting it to balls popped up within a very specific area - the infield and maybe a few feet beyond.
I agree with mth to this extent - the infield fly rule should be narrowly interpreted. If you call infield fly on virtually anything hit in the air, you've diminished the game by providing too broadly for an automatic out.