Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor
Think of it this way:
Would you keep around a salesman who is constantly able to drum up new potential clients, but is absolutely incapable of closing the sale?
That's Dusty Baker. When the games count the most, he gets outmanaged and his teams find creative ways to lose.
I'm sick of losing. I'm sick of looking up and seeing 1990 as the last year this organization had any relevance. I don't want to turn into another Chicago or Cleveland -- where you have fans who are born, live, and die never seeing their favorite team hoisting a trophy or raising a banner. Accepting good regular seasons and poor postseasons as positive things embraces mediocrity.
It's time to go find someone who can bring this team to better things than mediocrity while there is still a chance.
Winning the division is mediocre?
Bobby Cox had teams in the post season 16 times, winning 1 World Series.
I have a hard time saying winning only once is his fault.
True, Baker has been in 6 post seasons, with no WS wins. However, that performance is not too far shy of the following group; which of these guys do you not want to be your manager?
Whitey Herzog: 6 Playoffs, 1 WS win
Davey Johnson: 6:1
Charlie Manuel: 6:1
Jim Leyland: 7:1
Lou Piniella: 7:1
Mike Scioscia: 6:1
Earl Weaver: 6:1
Billy Martin: 5:1
OK, I would never have wanted Billy, either, but the rest of these guys are pretty good.