Originally Posted by SunDeck
Winning the division is mediocre?
Bobby Cox had teams in the post season 16 times, winning 1 World Series.
I have a hard time saying winning only once is his fault.
True, Baker has been in 6 post seasons, with no WS wins. However, that performance is not too far shy of the following group; which of these guys do you not want to be your manager?
Whitey Herzog: 6 Playoffs, 1 WS win
Davey Johnson: 6:1
Charlie Manuel: 6:1
Jim Leyland: 7:1
Lou Piniella: 7:1
Mike Scioscia: 6:1
Earl Weaver: 6:1
Billy Martin: 5:1
OK, I would never have wanted Billy, either, but the rest of these guys are pretty good.
First I would argue that actually winning a WS and never winning one is a pretty significant gap and therefore Baker is about as far shy of the names on that list as one could get and still be a MLB manager with 6 post season appearances.
Secondly, at least for me, it's the common theme of Baker led teams choking in the post season that is the primary concern. 2002 Giants, 2003 Cubs, 2012 Reds. Once is a coincidence, three's a trend.
Windows don't stay open that long anymore, this team is poised to be good for a while but they can't afford a manager who has a track record of consistently failing the way he does.
If I am the GM/owner and there isn't a manager available with a better post season track record then I would give Baker one more chance. If they choke again he'd be gone.