Originally Posted by Illini84
Actually, what they do best is win in the postseason. I get the animosity towards the Cardinals but I can't help but think that the outrage at the Cardinals whining is displaced anger for not being in their position. For what it's worth, I was rooting for the Reds against SF and I actually like Brandon Phillips for being the colorful character he is. A Reds vs. Cardinals series would have been much more compelling than Cards/ Giants. The Cards did their part. I think the 2nd wild card one game playoff is stupid, also. But every team knew the landscape going into the season and the Cardinals climbed through that window. It is true that ostensibly the best team doesn't win but the Cardinals thrive under pressure while other teams wilt under the strain. Looking forward to Cardinals and Reds matchups next year.
I would disagree. Tony LaRussa was the manager of the Cardinals for 15 years and whined about everything. The guy would go around like he invented the rules of baseball and it was hard to figure out what the rules were because they would constantly change based on whether they benefited him or not. Plunking guys was wrong, unless you do it the right way. What is the right way? However he does it. Hard slides are bad, unless he did it. It was NOT a Cardinal thing, it was a LaRussa thing. He was the same jackwagon in Chicago that he was in Oakland that he was in St. Louis. His constant crying about everything became synonymous with Cardinal baseball to people outside St. Louis and it get hard to separate the 2 especially when you have a dope like Chris Carpenter carrying on the tradition. Matheny seems like a decent guy and the majority of guys on the team are likeable so I think the whining label will eventually go away, but until it does things Cardinal guys say will be perceived as whining.
As far as bitterness yeah there is definitely bitterness. The 2-2 pitch last night to Freese that Storen was mad about was a ball. It was a couple inches off the plate. The 3-2 pitch to Hannigan in game 5 was the same pitch, a couple inches off the plate was called a strike. Instead of bases loaded not out, the Reds end up with a strike out put out. Reds fans wonder why we never get that call.
Ian Desmond gets his glove to the Decalso ground ball last night, if it goes in, he makes the play and its series over. Not only does it not go in his glove, it hits the heel and punts it into no mans land in CF so 2 runs score instead of just one if he knocks it down. Reds fans watch Angel Pagan make ridiculous diving catches with the tying runs on base and think why don't we ever end up with guys missing plays with the game on the line.
Then we get to come on here and see Cardinal fans talking about the difference is they are just clutch. Its ridiculous and of course it going to generate animosity. The Cardinals are a good team, probably the best team in the National League this season and I only say that because I think their lineup is a little stronger than the Reds top to bottom while the pitching top to bottom is probably a wash and the Nats had no Straussburg. But its not like the Cardinals are year in year out 110 win team that rolls everybody in the playoffs that the Reds wish they could be. They play well in the playoffs and seem to make the most of their opportunities but they also catch some breaks as well. One thing or another goes against them last night and there are no Cardinal fans on this board other than the regulars who are pretty classy for the most part