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Originally Posted by JayStubbs
Sorry, but this is just incorrect. Baseball is played over 162 game schedule, unlike the other examples you gave, so it is built for the long term.
1. Four games or even 15 games in baseball is like one game in most other sports. Going on a good 15 game run is often a matter of luck in baseball, that's why the playoffs are always a crap shoot.
2. The Cards got lucky last season because the Braves collapsed, and the Phillies best player was injured. They played well in the NLCS, but got lucky in the World Series that the Rangers played horribly.
3. The Cards got lucky this season because the rules were changed that let them into the playoffs despite a mediocre season overall and finishing 9 games out of first. They got lucky with a blown call against the Braves and were lucky that the Nat's shut down Strasberg.
4. The Cards have played well, so it's not all luck, but more luck than usual was required for them to win the World Series last year, and for their advancement so far this season.
5. It's an undeniable fact. The Cards have been unbelievabley lucky these last two years and their level of play normally would not have warrented them to even make the playoffs either year.
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(I numbered your post to make it easier to tear it down)
1. 4 games or 15 games are like 1 game in most other sports? First of all which one is it? 4 or 15 because those two numbers are not close. Secondly going on a good 15 game run is luck? No, because 15 games with 9 innings takes a tremendous amount of time. It's momentum, but going on a 15 game run is not "luck" by any means. I'm going to chalk this one up to you being drunk because there was not a coherent statement in there.
2. True the Braves collapse aided them, but by them going on a tear they put pressure on the Braves and they couldnt handle it. The Phillies best player was injured on the last play of the series when it didnt matter, you can't just change history to make an bogus argument. Rangers played horribly? They played pretty damn well in 4.5 of those games, and in most of the games hit and pitched situationally pretty well.
3. Jesus kid, the rule change was there all year, it didn't suddenly in the last week of the season. So if a home run is reversed due to the new instant replay on HR calls is that also "lucky" since it wouldnt have been reversed before the rule was made? And lucky because Strasburg was shut down? Did the Reds get "lucky" that Lincecum is injured and had an off year? Nats lucky Garcia got injured? No, in baseball things happen, Cardinals are missing their starting 1B and SS and third starter for that series along with other teams missing guys. Are we supposed to go cry foul everytime a team doesn't field its opening day roster? The call was or was not mistaken versus the Braves, the thing is calls are blown all game every game and the Braves lost by 3 runs, that call didnt end the inning and they still had a shot afterwards.
4. Right because when a team you dont like does well it's only "luck". Well it was unlucky for the Cardinals to lose Berkman, Furcal, and Carpenter(for most of the year) but that team and many other teams don't blame the injuries for not winning the division or any other shortcoming. I dont understand this culture of making excuses, blaming the next guy, and self loathing I see here all the time. I know its a fan forum, but you can't just disconnect yourself from reality.
5. Yes the Cardinals were the last one in, but guess what, it doesnt matter. The Reds could have won 3 games and made the NLCS. The Cardinals were banged up both in 2011 and 2012, its not that they made the playoffs for simply finishing over .500. Their lineup continues to be potent and their pitching kicks in when it matters.The Nats could have won 3 games and made the NLCS. The Cardinals hit better when it mattered and shut down the Nats pitching wise when they had to. The Reds have a tremendous young core team, but they didnt execute. Their stats and records dont win games. I'm pretty sure if you check the record books there will be no asterisk next to STL from last year, there will be wins and losses because thats what matters in baseball. Keep calling it "luck" and see if that really makes you feel better. Theres no reason to live bitter and disillusioned as a baseball fan, the game moves way to slow to do so. Call a spade a spade and look forward to a young core coming back.
And hometown, you've got to get a grip man. Does that infield fly rule score 4 runs for the Braves when you have the NL saves leader waiting? If you really think STL has more luck than an average MLB team youre doing it wrong.