Originally Posted by REDREAD
Look at his reputation now overall.. Have people ever considered him a "star', even during his peak in Cincy/Wash? Nope.. Only 2 all star appearances, best he ever did in MVP voting was 21st..
That's a fair point. Say what you want about his K's not being an issue, but that kept him from ever putting up an eye popping, MVP type season that may have garnered him a few more votes.