Originally Posted by crazybob60
I don't understand the fascination of even entertaining the idea of trading away Corcino and/or Cingrani at this point. We need SP depth and they are the depth and youth we need at that spot. Ellsbury would be nice, but it stops at nice. Especially if parting with one of those two is the asking price.
The Reds have 2-3 years to really contend for a World Series before some of their pitching gets really expensive and leaves town (and Brandon Phillips gets old). Cingrani and Corcino are luxuries on a team with 5 and possibly 6 proven major league starting pitchers (if you include Chapman) signed for multiple years. Robert Stephenson is the best pitching prospect in the organization, and his arrival timeline lines up perfectly with the above stated window. While I would be very hesitant to trade both Cingrani and Corcino, I would definitely trade one of them if it meant filling a major hole right now, which our OF certainly qualifies as such.
If I were the GM and the Sox accepted my proposed deal (Cingrani, Lutz and Stubbs) for Ellsbury, I would try to sign Kevin Youkilis to a 1 year, $5MM deal.
Go to war with:
2B Phillips (could swap spots with Youk)
If/when Youkilis gets hurt and/or Hamilton is ready, you go with:
If Ellsbury can't stay healthy, you have Heisey as a backup plan, and you can always trade for a rental LF bopper at the deadline if need be. (I'm thinking Carlos Beltran in 2011 or Hunter Pence in 2012)
It is the exact kind of calculated risk I'd be willing to take. Much more preferable than taking a calculated risk on 3 years and $20MM+ of Ryan Ludwick maintaining his 2012 productivity. Of course my other preferred choice would be trading for Justin Upton.
As an added bonus for whatever it's worth and whatever value you assign to this (including 0), Ellsbury and Youkilis are both seasoned playoff vets that have a history of performing in clutch moments- something this team unfortunately lacked earlier this month.