Originally Posted by The Operator
The Reds' hitters K'd 1266 times this year, compared to the Cards' 1192. A difference of 74 over the entire season - less than half a strikeout per game. Beltran, Holliday and Freese all K'd well over 100 times.
San Fran only K'd 1097 times yet they scored 47 less runs than the Cardinals on the year.
I think people get way too fixated on how outs are made instead of concentrating on avoiding outs in general. Good hitters with good OBP make good offenses, whether they K at a decent clip or not.
And I'd much prefer a guy strike out than to hit into a double play. Yes I know that's grasping at straws, but there is a tiny bit of out prevention from striking out. I want the Reds to make less outs in general, I could care less how they accomplish that.
Respectfully, I disagree completely. These arguments IMO are just wrong.
They call it hitting. The object is to hit the ball. If you swing and miss, you cannot hit the ball. If you take a third strike, you cannot hit the ball. If you cannot hit the ball there are very few positive outcomes.
The Cards last year had the fewest strikeouts in the NL. They won the Woirld Series. They beat Texas which had the fewest strikeouts in the AL and in baseball.
This year the Giants and Tigers are both low strikeout teams. In the World Series.
The double play argument IMO is a fallacy. The issue is not the RESULT of the hit. Yes, sometimes a struck ball will be a DP. The issue is the OPPORTUNITY for a successful at bat. Except for walks, hitting the ball is required.
Other things are important too. Power. Speed. Patience at the plate. Yes, sure.
But good playoff teams hit the baseball. As Verducci shows, particularly recently when pitching strikeout totals are high. Making contact against playoff pitchers becomes critical.
A great power hitter can compensate for strikeouts. But most players cannot. Drew Stubbs cannot. Chris Heisey cannot. Jay Bruce arguably can.
They call it hitting. That's the objective. Strike three is bad, except for the guy pitching.