Originally Posted by Kc61
I think you may be confusing my views on Heisey with my views generally.
I have nothing against a hitter with good plate discipline swinging early in the count.
Heisey had a 66.9% first strike ratio according to Fangraphs. That's worse than all other Reds except for pitchers, Negron, Phipps, and Mesoraco.
I have criticized Chris' early count swinging because he appears overly aggressive on the first pitch. As a result he is often behind in the count, he strikes out much, he walks rarely. Not a contact hitter, subpar plate discipline. (Good power and hustle, though.)
You're contradicting yourself. You're basically saying that you don't have a problem with a hitter with "good plate discipline" swinging early, but then you proceed to criticize Heisey for how many times he's swung early because he "appears overly aggressive on the first pitch."
You are, in fact, essentially defining "plate discipline" as whether a hitter swings early in the count. And here's the thing: Chris Heisey's O-Swing% this year was 29%. That's actually slightly above-average, as the average is typically 30-32% in a given year. So discipline, as defined by swinging at good pitches, is not at all a weakness of Heisey. He is certainly more aggressive at swinging at balls in the zone, but if you're so concerned by strikeouts, then that should be a concession you're willing to make.