Originally Posted by HometownHero
If Escobar was a problem then the Jays wouldn't have gave up 3 MLB talents for him. They added a OPS of .793 that was all power the the 7 hole and you're telling me that's not an upgrade?
They traded a guy who was having a down year and was about to get a big bump in arbitration for a guy who was putting up massive power numbers for a SS and had a cheaper deal than what Escobar was going to get in 2011 and going forward and got his potential replacement and another prospect.
So they got a player with 110 OPS at the time owned 2.5M in 2011 with prospects and gave up a played having a down year with a 71 OPS+ and ended up getting 2.9M for 2011.
That part didn't end up working out because Escobar finish 2010 at 89 and 2011 at 112 and Gonzalez posted a 83 and then 74 with the Braves and they did end up moving Collins to KC with others for Ankiel and Farnsworth but still have Pastornicky to keep or move to help their team now.
This debate is so far gone at this point, I'll just say you're right so I can bow out of it.