Re: Josh Willingham and Ben Revere
Why the obssession with the Stubbs part of my proposal? I said he's a throw in, I have no delusion that the Reds would be able to "trick" the Twins on Stubbs. So, if just the name Stubbs makes you see red and you can't think beyond that, well throw somebody else's name out there - but, in my opinion, it shouldn't be a much more than a throw in. Bailey should be pretty close to enough. Sure, in a perfect world the Twins would like to keep Willingham, but he's not in their long-term plans. By the same token, the Reds would darn sure like to keep Bailey too, but you have to give up something to get something. Bailey for Willingham straight-up, in my opinion, is not a fair trade for the Reds.
It seems that there is this mindset that Reds have to always over pay to get anybody to trade with them. Well, look at how many games the Twins won verses the Reds and then tell me who's more desperate to make a trade to improve their team. Revere is a bit player. He played RF for the Twins and his power makes Billy Hamilton look like Babe Ruth. Do you think that the Twins would rather part with Span than Revere? If so, please swap Span as part of my trade proposal as fast as possible. But I think Revere can (and I know Span could) fill our need in CF next year. Then, when Hamilton is ready, use Revere as trade-bait.
But I've digressed horribly. My point is the Twins look like a good trading partner to me. Like the Reds, their best opportunity to improve is via a trade, rather than free agency. And they have players they're willing to move - and they're going to move to somebody - for pitching (their 1st priority) and a SS (their 2nd priority).