Originally Posted by RedsManRick
You don't think tone ever changes? That tone of conversation from one era should be used to suggest a dynamic in a different one?
He is making a very clear suggestion that, today, sabemertricians think good coaching is irrelevant. I'm not sure what bearing the tone of conversation 8 years has on that assertion; surely the actual conversation that's occurring today is more relevant to his discussion?
It's not like there's a single conversation. FWIW, I think there are places where snark is justified (e.g. if someone wants to contend Drew Stubbs is a capable every day leadoff hitter) and despise all calls to make the default tone the written equivalent of tapioca pudding.
So I'm not one to condemn haphazardly for tone, but I do recall reading in places (and I'm excluding Redszone from this particular point) this past summer that Dusty Baker only deserved blame for his mistakes and merited no credit for anything that was going right with the Reds because that was happening independent of his coaching. It's a meme among many self-identifying saberfolk and sometimes they get snotty about it. However, my take is the real problem there is the shallow faux analysis, not the tone.