Originally Posted by Kc61
We're talking about acquiring a starting LFer with a lifetime .400 OBP against righty pitching. A top notch left handed hitter. He would dramatically boost the Reds offense in the areas of need, LHH, OBP.
Let me posit this. Say you could get Choo with NO guarantee beyond one year. Straight up for Mike Leake.
Is there any question Reds should take this deal?
Leake is potentially a solid finesse pitcher, but I think he is being wildly overrated in these discussions. Leake, Cingrani, and Heisey for Choo? I think I probably make that deal, even for one year. If Choo has a potential interest in extending? I make the deal in a heartbeat.
And IMO, Choo is worth far more than Span. Span is a punch and judy hitter whose last three offensive years have been fair to poor. Choo is just a much, much better player.
Yep, Span > Choo for one year.
But Washington traded for 2 or 3 years of Span, as opposed to one year of Choo.
Choo is pending arb and is going to be paid well in this last year.
Historically, corner OF in the last year of their contract just don't command a starter like Leake, a solid pitching prospect like Cingrani, Hiesey, and a PTBL.
Look at what St louis gave up for one year of Holliday a couple years ago
The A's sent Holliday and $1.5 million to the Cardinals and
receive power-hitting third baseman Brett Wallace, a top offensive player
in the St. Louis farm system; outfielder Shane Peterson and right-hander Clayton Mortensen.
Holliday > Choo and the Cardinals gave up much less for one year of him.
2 years ago, the Giants gave up only one pitching prospect for Beltran (although that was only a partial year rental).. Arguably Beltan was at least as good as Choo.
I'd love to have Choo, but giving up the four players mentioned is too much.
Would I do Leake straight up for Choo? I'd have to think about it honestly, because I don't want Redmond pitching in Cincy if at all possible, and I don't think Chapman will make it the entire year. A bad pitcher in the #5 slot can cost us considerably in the standings.
I guess I see pitchers like Leake more scarce than acceptable OFers.. Although I do admit that Choo is an elite OF.