Originally Posted by jojo
I'd trade Chapman and Hamilton in a deal for Stanton. I think Stanton makes it more likely the Reds are WS contenders the next three years.
Agreed. I don't think some people realize how young he is. Mike Stanton is just the 9th player to have more than 1450 PA and a 140 OPS+ through his age 22 season and the first since Mickey Mantle in 1954. The rest of the list: Eddie Mathews ('54), Ted Williams ('41), Mel Ott ('31), Jimmie Foxx ('30), Rogers Hornsby ('18), Ty Cobb ('09), Sherry Magee ('07).
Obviously that's cherry picking a little with the PA cutoff, but it also just happens to be true. Three full seasons of HOF caliber hitting by age 22 is a pretty darn elite group. And even if you drop the PA cutoff to 1000, the list only expands to 16, with Pujols ('02) and Curt Belfary ('66) joining Stanton as the only guys since Mantle to do it.
If you want a fuller picture, you can use 10 rWAR through age 22 as a cutoff instead. That's a group of 38 players. At Stanton's 12.0 rWAR it's a list of 38, including just Jason Heyward, Andruw Jones, ARod, Griffey Jr. and Rickey Henderson since 1980.
Chapman and Hamilton certainly has the possibility of being more valuable, especially if Chapman pans out as a starter, but in terms of winning now and keeping upside, Stanton makes a big difference.