Originally Posted by kaldaniels
I certainly know all that, but am just trying to be clear here.
What seasons was Jocketty's work as GM suspect?
All of the above?
When does a season start in terms of this anyway. You liked his 2012, but he didn't do much after Opening Day 2012, so I take it you liked his 2011 offseason moves.
It was Jocketty's lack
of work as GM from 2008-2011 that was suspect. The team was basically on autopilot for four seasons. That was the source of angst for so many observers. Other teams were making moves that improved their teams and farm systems, yet the Reds stood pat for season after season. Glaring holes were left unfilled. Upgrades were passed by.
I was not critical of the few moves that Jocketty actually made. I just wanted more of them. I stated it was fair to characterize Jocketty as being "asleep at the switch" as someone else proposed for those four seasons of 2008-2011. He certainly wasn't actively building the team in those years.
People weren't expecting Jocketty to make moves just for the sake of making moves. People expect a good GM to find/create/manufacture ways to improve the team. Other teams found ways to get better. Why couldn't the Reds?
Maybe Jocketty was trying to make deals but failed. Maybe his plan all along was to bide his time until 2012 and then go for it. We don't know for certain, although I am sure that even if the plan was ultimately to target 2012 as the year to compete, couldn't you still make some incremental upgrades here and there along the way? Is it unreasonable to expect a good GM to improve the team on a regular basis?
I consider a baseball season as ending with the World Series. The day after the World Series is the first day of the following season. I consider the post-season moves in 2011 as being preparation for the 2012 season.
Jocketty's moves last season turned out golden. He targeted the right players and found a way to get them. We can quibble and complain that he may have overpaid for them, or at least paid absolute top dollar. But in the end the new players played well and that is the most important thing. The three big off-season moves were the Latos trade, the Marshall trade and the Ludwick signing. All three paid off in spades. The other two big additions to the 2012 Reds were Frazier and Cozart, both of whom were already in the organization before Walt's arrival.