Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey
In my mind, the Reds-Jays trade of Zach Stewart (the main piece from the Reds), Edwin Encarnacion and Josh Roenicke for Scott Rolen was up for verdict as soon as Encarnacion was DFA by the Jays. Anyone in baseball could have had him then. At that point, the trade was a resounding success for the Reds. Even the Reds could have had EE back if they wanted him at that point.
Just because EE -- by some miracle (cough, cough) -- is now putting up big numbers doesn't mean the Reds lost the trade. Let's say the A's would have picked up Encarnacion when he was available to all of MLB and he ended up having his career turnaround there. Would that have meant that the Blue Jays won the trade? Nope.
What the Blue Jays "won" was getting the PED-enhanced, er, I mean the vastly-improved Edwin Encarnacion after he was basically on the MLB scrap heap for anyone to have. As I said, the Reds could have taken him back if they wanted and used him as a backup to Rolen. They definitely won the trade. It's revisionist history to pretend otherwise. The only "mistake" Jocketty made was not making a move on EE when he was available for nothing But there are 28 other GMs who could say the same thing. And really, EE would only be a good fit for an AL team, so I don't think it was a mistake not going back after him. No one saw this coming from Encarnacion. Unless you also saw it coming from Melky Cabrera if you know what I mean.
You are ignoring the huge salary hit the Reds took. That trade cost them many millions of dollars and hence the good players they could have bought with that money.
Do you really think the Jays would have MVP candidate EE right now if the Reds hadn't traded him to them? EE is in Toronto because of the relationship they established with him after the trade.
I won't comment on the unfounded steroids accusations.