Originally Posted by M2
Hispanic and non-Hispanic people in the U.S. and other countries want to drape themselves with the things. A Rojos shirt with a Chapman 54 on the back and suddenly you're borderline hip. It's not a shirt for a group of people. At most the Reds are looking to a group of people, and in this case it extends well beyond that. The reality is the Reds are selling it for fun and profit.
This is all true. Good points.
You would admit, though, that there are distinctions to be made here as well. Adding a Spanish language shirt to the mix has more potential for far different forms of fandom than the green Irish shirt. To me, the Irish shirt seems more like a pure gimmick (and I'm part Irish) than the Los Rojos, if only because it is in the same language and there is a ton of overlap between the two groups (Anglophone Irish Americans and other Anglophone Americans tend to be pretty closely affiliated with one another, at least over the past few centuries).
The Spanish stuff, though, that's much newer and more dynamic and untested waters. Right?