Originally Posted by Scrap Irony
Posters bring up Stewart-as-Cy-Young as an example of posters getting too amped up about prospects and about making silly proclamations and couching them as facts.
Before you were a part of the board, Sir Charles, there was a first-born son bon mot. This was brought about by another poster's insistence that a particular Red pitcher would never win 15 games. He did.
In other words, it's not always about doug, but about posters who state adamantly their opinion, then continue to argue said opinion even years later. Often after the issue has been settled definitively.
Redszone has a very high standard and an extremely long memory. Facts are demanded. Opinions without merit mostly ignored. That's one of the reasons, IMO, this board has survived a decade plus while other sports' boards are literally here today, gone tomorrow. It's one of the reasons this is perhaps the best sports' board on the internet.
If he doesn't like it, doug can always choose to post on his own site and leave this one alone. Or, if mods really do think he's being picked on, Rule Five can be invoked and those posters can be kicked out.
Personally, were doug to throw out a mea culpa once in a while, I'd guess posters who "jump on" him would decrease. But the attitude he shows-- "confident," he says-- doesn't leave a lot of room for error.
Obviously, that's my opinion and means next to nothing to anyone, particularly doug himself. This is strictly an opinion and can be safely ignored.
Nice post. I will say that Doug has stated on numerous occasions that a prospect didn't turn out as he thought. So why he should have to do a mea culpa on one that hasn't come to fruition or even one that has I don't get. Projecting any prospect is inherently a glimpse into the future based on current data. It's a guideline as to what we COULD expect.
The reason Doug's valued on this board isn't because he's an "expert" or not...it's because he does PERSONAL RESEARCH on these guys. He's not just passing along info he's read on the net from some named/unnamed source. Will he be wrong? Absolutely, and he'll be one of the first to admit that. But I don't get the attitude by some here that he should not have strong opinions or voice strong opinions. Why should he sugar-coat his comments to make them more palatable? And mostly, why do some have to do the "ha ha ha...you were wrong. You're an idiot!" routine? They may not intend it in that vein, but it's certainly the way it comes across.
I guess my biggest beef with all of this is this instancy that when he is stating his projection of a young player people are reading it like he's stating a fact. He's stating his belief and his strong opinion. I just don't get how people can't understand that automatically.