Originally Posted by TSJ55
So you're saying the PEDs from 90s and 2000s actually did improve maximum performance but today's PEDs only help a player avoid injury and recover more quickly?
I'm not agreeing/disagreeing. Just trying to get a handle on what your point is. Do you consider the Platelet Rich Plasma treatment a PED then? Should the PEDs that you claim players are using now be legal since they won't enhance maximum performance?
Never claimed different. My statement was present tense, I did not clarify today vs the past. Not a writer I suppose. Performance Enhancing Drugs suggests just that, you are correct. I thought we were talking about PEDs that are actually in use? Sorry. Most being used do not appear to increase maximal muscle and physical performance much. If not tested and penalized Ivan Drago would be at every position. PRP is self transfusion of normal blood components. I would not call that a performance enhancing drug. I would call it a recovery enhancing treatment. No, I do not consider PRP to be a PED. Adderall, Viagra, Epogen, HgH, anabolic steroids, diuretics. Yeah, PEDS. Are they legal? Most are and apporved for use, just not as a PED. Depends on baseball I suppose. Now, I see a lot of men with low testerone that I treat. When you elevate the hormone level to the normal range you improve muscle (even Russell) to better function, in essence what it should be without the deficiency. Is that a PED? I think not if monitored and given by a professional. So as with all things, there is so much gray it's hard to say and the players will always push the envelope. I do not treat players btw. How about Toradol? Great NSAID, highly effective, allows you to play with pretty bad pain, but is only approved for 5 days? High risk drug but does not effect performance or mental state, just blocks pain. Allowable for say Johnny Cueto in the NCLS?